HAIL TO THE CHIEF!
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
"The Gang's All Here!"
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The government which was designed for the people, has got into the hands
of their bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible
empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.
– Woodrow Wilson
Sightings from The Catbird Seat
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From PBS Frontline:
Interview with Charles Chidiac
Charles Chidiac is a financier-developer who knew Gene and Nora
Lum in Hawaii. He was also involved in Asian Pacific Advisory
Council-Vote, a Los Angeles Democratic fund-raising group once
headed by Nora Lum. He has a checkered past. He was an
unindicted co-conspirator in the BNL financial scandal....
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Q: Give me an example of corruption in Hawaii in the 1980s.
Chidiac: Well, if you want to do business in Hawaii, you go and you apply for a zoning.
You get a call from an attorney. And he says, "I want to see you."
"Oh, I want to talk about your application." . . .
"But I already have an attorney."
"It's necessary to see you anyway." So he comes over and he says, "Listen, you
applied. This attorney of yours is no good. If you don't hire me, you'll never get your
zoning. . . ."
So, that's how they do it. It's called in Hawaii, "law firming," instead of laundering.
"Law firming" is laundering money through law firms.
Q: In other words, bribery?
Chidiac: Pure, pure bribery, under the cover of being legal work.
Q: Describe Nora Lum.
Chidiac: Well, she is a Japanese woman ... And she's very smart. ... Her husband is an
attorney. ... She knew all the tricks of raising money ...
Q: You had a very close relationship with them for awhile.
Chidiac: . . . I had everything ready and this thing was dragging on and on and on.
And I didn't realize that the state of Hawaii, to extort half a million or a million dollars
from a developer, would go to the extent of destroying a project that would create 3,000
to 4,000 jobs for the poorest part in the islands, where you have 30% unemployment.
The sugar cane industry is collapsing, and they just didn't care. . . . We were planning
to build three hotels ...
Q: Big money?
Chidiac: The project was going to cost somewhere around $800 million.
Q: Did Nora and Gene have access to Governor John Waihee?
Chidiac: All the time, any time. Any time. . . .
Q: What was her stock in trade?
Chidiac: Power pimping ... and greed. She pays for power; she buys power.
Q: Did she ever have big success in Hawaii?
Chidiac: I think I was her biggest success. . . . She introduced me to late Commerce
Secretary Ron H. Brown in Honolulu. ... and she only boasted about her power ...
Q: Did she have many businesses?
Chidiac: She had no business. She was just acting as a power peddler. And raised
money for different councilmen and politicians....
Q: What motivated them?
Chidiac: They told me that ... their only interest was to make money.
Q: How did the Lums and Ron Brown meet?
Chidiac: I think she met him through John Waihee because ... as the governor, he met
Q: Was she talking to big wigs on the phone all the time?
Chidiac: Yeah, -- We had calls from Hillary Clinton. . . . I heard her talking to Ron
Q: Does it surprise you that a woman who owns a souvenir shop and her part-time
lawyer-husband can go in and out of the White House 13 times and accompany the
president to Jakarta . . . Does it surprise you that their daughter ends up working for
Ron Brown? That Gene almost gets on Amtrak's Board of Directors? That Nora can
come and go with Bruce Lindsey, who helps them do an oil deal in Oklahoma? . . .
Chidiac: Well, I mean, if the President is corrupt, everything's possible...
December 18, 2008
Saudis, Indians among Clinton
By BETH FOUHY and SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press
WASHINGTON – The world opened its wallet for Bill Clinton. Governments,
corporations and billionaires with their own interests in U.S. foreign policy gave the
former president's charity millions of dollars, according to records he released Thursday
to lay bare any financial entanglements that could affect his wife Hillary Rodham
Clinton as the next secretary of state.
Saudi Arabia, Norway and other foreign governments gave at least $46 million, and
donors with ties to India delivered millions more. Corporate donors included the
Blackwater security firm, at risk of losing its lucrative government contract to protect
U.S. diplomats in Iraq, and Web company Yahoo, involved in disputes over
surrendering Internet information to Chinese authorities that led to the imprisonment of
Other high-profile Clinton donors don't suggest inevitable collisions between U.S.
policies and their giving. Celebrities Barbra Streisand, Steven Spielberg, Paul
Newman, Carly Simon and Chevy Chase all gave. Sports figures included New York
Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, Formula One driver Michael Schumacher and
owners of the Indiana Pacers basketball team.
The records account for at least $492 million in contributions to the William J. Clinton
Foundation, a nonprofit created by the former president to finance his library in Little
Rock, Ark., and charitable efforts in dozens of countries to reduce poverty and treat
President-elect Barack Obama made Hillary Clinton's nomination as secretary of
state contingent on her husband revealing the foundation's contributors, to address
questions about potential conflicts of interest.
The foundation disclosed the names of its 205,000 donors on its Web site Thursday,
ending a decade of resistance to identifying them. It released only the names of
donors and the range of their contributions. It did not identify each contributor's
occupation, employer or nationality or provide any other details. The foundation said
separately Thursday that fewer than 3,000 of its donors were foreigners but it did not
identify which ones.
Presidents typically do not release the names of donors to their foundations, and the
Clintons were no different. There also was no legal obligation for them to do so....
It was not immediately clear whether the disclosures will raise any serious challenge to
Hillary Clinton's nomination to be secretary of state. The two senior lawmakers on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Sens. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., and Sen. Richard
Lugar, R-Ind., wrote to colleagues on Thursday and said the list's disclosure "is
designed to establish greater transparency and predictability with regard to the activities
of the Clinton Foundation in the context of Sen. Clinton's service as secretary of state."
Shortly after the documents were released Thursday, Hillary Clinton made another
appearance at the State Department for meetings with transition aides, officials said.
The trip was the latest of several to the building for the former first lady since she was
nominated by Obama. Her first visit was Dec. 8, after which she had dinner with
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
After negotiations with Obama's transition team, Bill Clinton promised to reveal the
contributors, submit future foundation activities and paid speeches to an ethics review,
step away from the day-to-day operation of his annual charitable conference and inform
the State Department about new sources of income and speeches.
According to Clinton's list, Saudi Arabia gave $10 million to $25 million to the
foundation. Other government donors include Norway, Kuwait, Qatar, Brunei, Oman,
Italy, Jamaica and Tenerife in the Canary Islands. The Dutch national lottery gave $5
million to $10 million.
The Blackwater Training Center donated $10,001 to $25,000. The State Department
will have to decide next year whether to renew Blackwater Worldwide's contract to
protect U.S. diplomats in Iraq. A U.S. grand jury has indicted five Blackwater guards on
manslaughter and weapons charges stemming from a September 2007 firefight in
Baghdad's Nisoor Square in which 17 Iraqis died.
"Blackwater frequently supports charitable organizations and we were honored to make
a donation to this one, long before Senator Clinton became the Secretary of State-designee," said Blackwater spokeswoman Anne E. Tyrrell.
Donors also include Yahoo; its co-founder Jerry Yang; Yahoo board member Frank J.
Biondi and former Yahoo chief executive Terry Semel, who stepped down in June
2007. Another company where Yang serves on the board, Alibaba.com, does
extensive business in China and contributed separately to the foundation.
Eager to tap into China's lucrative markets, Yahoo has fallen under bitter criticism —
one congressman publicly called Yang a moral "pygmy" — after the company handed
over e-mails that helped the Chinese government identify and ultimately imprison two
Chinese journalists. Yang later expressed regret over the incident and urged Rice —
who would become Hillary Clinton's predecessor — to negotiate for their freedom.
The foundation's list also underscores ties between the Clintons and India, which could
complicate diplomatic perceptions of whether Hillary Clinton can be a neutral broker
between India and neighboring Pakistan in a region where Obama will face an early test
of his foreign policy leadership. Tensions between the two nuclear nations are high
since last month's deadly terrorist attacks in Mumbai.
Amar Singh, a donor in the $1 million to $5 million category, is an Indian politician who
played host to Bill Clinton on a visit to India in 2005 and met Hillary Clinton in New York
in September to discuss an India-U.S. civil nuclear agreement.
Also in that category was Suzlon Energy Ltd. of Amsterdam, a leading supplier of wind
turbines. Its chairman is Tulsi R. Tanti, one of India's wealthiest executives. Tanti
announced plans at Clinton's Global Initiative meeting earlier this year for a $5 billion
project to develop environmentally friendly power generation in India and China.
Two other Indian interests gave between $500,000 and $1 million each: the
Confederation of Indian Industry, an industrial trade association; and Dave Katragadda,
an Indian capital manager with holdings in media and entertainment, technology, health
care and financial services. Ajit Gulabchand, chairman of the Hindustan Construction
Co., gave $250,000 to $500,000.
Other foreign governments also contributed heavily to the foundation.
AUSAID, the Australian government's overseas aid program, and COPRESIDA-Secretariado Tecnico, a Dominican Republic government agency formed to fight AIDS,
each gave $10 million to $25 million. Norway gave $5 million to $10 million. Kuwait,
Qatar, Brunei and Oman gave $1 million to $5 million each. The government of
Jamaica and Italy's Ministry for Environment and Territory gave $50,000 to $100,000
each. The Tenerife Island government donated $25,000 to $50,000.
The biggest donations — more than $25 million each — came from two donors. They
are the Children's Investment Fund Foundation, a London-based philanthropic
organization founded by hedge fund manager Chris Hohn and his wife Jamie Cooper-Hohn and dedicated to helping children, primarily in Africa and India; and UNITAID, an
international drug purchase organization formed by Brazil, France, Chile, Norway and
Britain to help provide care for HIV-AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis patients in countries
with high disease rates.
(Catbird Curiosity: Why do these foreign countries, government agencies,
“philanthropists” and other entities need to give millions to The Clinton Foundation in
order to fight poverty, disease and AIDS in Africa, India, and other foreign countries?
Can’t they just give it directly to those countries in need???)
The foundation's donor list includes many overseas business interests:
_Saudi businessman Nasser Al-Rashid gave $1 million to $5 million.
_Friends of Saudi Arabia and the Dubai Foundation each gave $1 million to $5 million,
as did the Taiwan Economic and Cultural Office.
_The Swedish Postcode Lottery gave $500,000 to $1 million.
_China Overseas Real Estate Development and the U.S. Islamic World Conference
gave $250,000 to $500,000 apiece.
_The No. 4 person on the Forbes billionaire list, Lakshmi Mittal, the chief executive of
international steel company ArcelorMittal, gave $1 million to $5 million. Mittal is a
member of the Foreign Investment Council in Kazakhstan, Goldman Sachs' board
of directors and the World Economic Forum's International Business Council, according
to the biography on his corporate Web site.
_Simon Barcelo, chief executive of Barcelo Hotels & Resorts, gave $500,000 to $1
million. The company's holdings include hotels in Cuba, a communist country
subject to U.S. trade sanctions.
_Victor P. Dahdaleh, who gave $1 million to $5 million, is a Canadian investor and
philanthropist involved in aluminum production. His business ties have brought
allegations of fraud and bribery in a lawsuit filed by a Bahrain aluminum
company. The suit seeks more than $1 billion in damages for what it alleges is
Dadaleh's involvement in questionable deals in the Middle East, and the Justice
Department has opened a criminal investigation into the matter. Dahdaleh has
vowed to vigorously contest the charges.
Among other $1 million to $5 million donors:
_Harold Snyder, director for Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, the largest drug
company in Israel. His son, Jay T. Snyder, serves on the U.S. Advisory Commission
on Public Diplomacy, which oversees State Department activities, and served as a
senior U.S. adviser to the United Nations, where he worked on international trade and
poverty. Jay Snyder donated between $100,000 and $250,000 to the foundation.
_No. 97 on the Forbes billionaire list, Ethiopian-Saudi business tycoon Sheikh
Mohammed H. Al-Amoudi.
_Issam Fares, a former deputy prime minister of Lebanon.
_Mala Gaonkar Haarman, a partner and managing director at the private investment
partnership Lone Pine Capital.
_Lukas Lundin, chairman of oil, gas and mining businesses including Tanganyika Oil
Company Ltd., an international oil and gas exploration and production company with
interests in Syria, and Vostok Nafta Investment Ltd., an investment company that
focuses on Russia and other former Soviet republics.
_Victor Pinchuk, son-in-law of the former president of Ukraine. Clinton spoke in 2007 at
an annual meeting of Yalta European Strategy, a group Pinchuk founded to promote
Ukraine joining the European Union.
The top ranks of Clinton's donor list are heavy with longtime Democratic givers, some
notable for their staunch support of Israel
_TV producer Haim Saban and his family foundation, who donated between $5 million
and $10 million, splits his time between homes in Israel and California. "I'm a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel," he told The New York Times in 2004.
_Slim-Fast diet foods tycoon S. Daniel Abraham, a donor of between $1 million and
$5 million, has been a board member of the American Israel Public Affairs
Committee, which promotes Israel's interests before the U.S. government.
_The American Jewish Committee and the United Nations Foundation donated
$100,000 to $250,000.
Clinton thanked his donors in a statement for being "steadfast partners in our work to
impact the lives of so many around the world in measurable and meaningful ways."
The former president agreed to step away from direct involvement in the Clinton
Global Initiative, an annual charitable conference where businesses and many foreign
governments pledge donations to help ameliorate AIDS, poverty and other social ills.
He will continue serving as CGI's founding chairman but will not solicit money or
sponsorships. The CGI will cease accepting foreign contributions and will not host
events outside the United States.
Clinton started raising money for his library before leaving the White House. Over the
years, the Clintons repeatedly refused to identify all the foundation donors, and
continued to do so during Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
Names surfaced nonetheless. Several news organizations unearthed foreign-government donors, and in 2001, Bill Clinton turned over a list of 150 top foundation
donors to a House committee investigating his pardon of fugitive businessman Marc
Rich, whose ex-wife, Denise Rich, gave the library foundation at least $450,000.
On the Net:
Clinton Foundation contributors: http://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors
For more, GO TO >>> CV05-00030 - Farmer vs. Harmon, Witness: Clinton, Bill
From The Progressive Review:
The BCCI affair
CARTER, REAGAN, BUSH, CLINTON,
BUSH, AND BCCI
THE GREATEST FINANCIAL scandal in history -- the BCCI affair -- left American
participants virtually untouched. The media covered the scandal poorly even though,
according to one investigative journalist, up to a hundred Washington politicians and
lawyers might have been criminally liable.
As a result -- much like Clinton and the Dixie Mafia -- Americans have but the vaguest
notion of what happened. In fact, the two stories overlap. And like many contemporary
sagas of corruption, the two stories reached deep into both the major parties. In fact, if
George W. Bush is elected, we will be entering our fifth consecutive presidential
administration (two Democratic and three Republican) with direct ties to leading figures
in the biggest financial scandal of all time.
This time line suggests some of the interplay of individuals and parties:
National Bank of Georgia president Bert Lance, whom former Georgia Governor
Jimmy Carter described as being like a brother and was Carter's chosen but defeated
successor, meets with Jackson Stephens, a Naval Academy classmate of Carter.
Stephens Inc. arranges public offering of NBG stock. Stephens would later be
described by the New York Post as the man who was to "Clinton what Bert Lance was
to candidate Jimmy Carter."
Both Stephens and Lance help Carter in his race for the White House. Carter uses the
NBG corporate plane without disclosing it. Campaign is later fined.
Two Indonesian billionaires come to Arkansas. Mochtar Riady and Liem Sioe Liong
are close to Suharto. Riady is looking for an American bank to buy. Riady's agent is
Lance comes to Washington as director of the Office of Management and Budget. He
quickly comes under investigation for his past financial dealings and in September
resigns. His lawyer is Clark Clifford, later embroiled in the BCCI case.
Hillary Clinton, the Arkansas governor's wife, is getting considerable business from
George W. Bush begins operations of his oil firm, Arbusto Energy. He assembles
several dozen investors in a limited partnership including Dorothy Bush (a friend of
BCCI figure Robert Altman), Lewis Lehrman, William Draper, and James Bath, a
Houston aircraft broker who bought several planes from Air America, a CIA front.
Bath's firm appears to be owned by Saudi investors. He also was a part-owner of a
Houston's Main Bank, along with a couple of BCCI figures.
Stephens brokers the arrival of BCCI to this country, and steers BCCI's founder,
Hassan Abedi to Bert Lance.
Stephens Inc tries to sell Riady stock in the National Bank of Georgia. The Washington
Post quotes a US banker suggesting that Riady is working for Suharto, who is trying to
butter up Carter: "They think of this country like a 'regime' similar to their own and they
just don't realize that such a ploy wouldn't work." There's no deal. Lance's bank will
eventually be taken over by a BCCI front man -- Ghaith Pharaon. Pharaon later sells
his bank to First American. Pharaon will be fined $37 million by the Federal Reserve
Board and become a fugitive.
Abedi moves to secretly take over First American Bankshares -- later the subject of
the only BCCI-connected scandal to be prosecuted in the US.
Mochtar Riady and Stephens Inc set up Stephens Finance Ltd. In Hong Kong.
Lance is indicted on charges of violating federal banking laws. Clifford's partner, Robert
Altman, represents Lance who eventually achieves a hung jury.
During this same period, Stephens is, according to Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin in
"False Profits," playing "a crucial role in BCCI's penetration of the US market."
Mochtar Riady buys a stake in the Worthen holding company whose assets include the
Stephens-controlled Worthen Bank. Price: $16 million. Other Worthen co-owners will
eventually include BCCI investor Abdullah Taha Bakhish. Deal handled by C. Joseph
Giroir II. Giroir is the Rose law firm chair who hired Hillary Clinton. Giroir will continue
to be a deal-maker for the Riadys.
Arkansas state pension funds -- deposited in Worthen by Governor Bill Clinton --
suddenly lose 15% of their value because of the failure of high risk, short-term
investments and the brokerage firm that bought them. The $52 million loss is covered
by a Worthen check written by Jack Stephens in the middle of the night, an insurance
policy, and the subsequent purchase over the next few months of 40% of the bank by
Mochtar Riady. Clinton and Worthen escape a major scandal. Mochtar's son James
comes back to Arkansas to manage Worthen as president.
Worthen is investigated by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency for improper
loans to companies owned by the Riadys and Stephenses.
George W. Bush and partners receive more than $2 million of Harken Energy stock in
exchange for a failing oil well operation, which has lost $400,000 in the prior six months.
After Bush joins Harken, the largest stock position and a seat on its board is acquired
by Harvard Management Company. The Harken board gives Bush $600,000 worth of
the company's publicly traded stock, plus a seat on the board plus a consultancy that
pays him up to $120,000 a year. When Harken runs short of cash it hooks up with
Jackson Stephens, who arranges a $25 million stock purchase by Union Bank of
Switzerland. Sheik Abdullah Bakhsh, who joins the board as a part of the deal, is
connected to BCCI.
Stephens' wife Mary Ann runs George Bush's campaign in Arkansas. He is a member
of Team 100 -- individuals who have given $100,000 to the Republican party.
A few days before the supposedly surprise arrest of five BCCI officials, some of the
world's most powerful drug dealers quietly withdraw millions of dollars from the bank.
Some government investigators believe the dealers were tipped off by sources within
the Reagan administration.
Bahrain officials suddenly break off offshore drilling negotiations with Amoco and
decide to deal with Harken Energy, George W. Bush's firm. Harken has had a series of
failed ventures and no cash, so the Bass brothers are brought in to finance Harken's
efforts at a cost of $50 million. Harken's investment banker is the same firm that helped
in BCCI's acquisition of First American. Among the other BCCI-connected figures that
help the deal: Bahrain's prime minister.
Bush's attorney general, Richard Thornberg, is warned about BCCI but does nothing.
Stephens Inc gives $100,000 to a Bush dinner committee.
With Stephens, Mochtar Riady buys BCCI's former Hong Kong subsidiary from its
A former top aide to White House Chief of Staff John Sununu goes to work for a
prominent figure in the BCCI scandal less than a month after leaving the Bush
administration. Edward Rogers Jr. signs a $600,000 contract to give legal advice to
Sheik Kamal Adham, an ex-Saudi intelligence officer who is being investigated for his
role in BCCI's takeover of First American Bankshares.
The Miami acting US Attorney is reportedly rebuffed by the Justice Department in his
efforts to indict BCCI and some of its principal officers on tax fraud charges. Justice
Department later denies this occurred.
Ronald Reagan is introduced at the GOP convention by former senator Paul Laxalt,
whose law firm represented BCCI in a drug money case. The chair of the convention,
Craig Fuller, has been the number two official of Hill & Knowlton which was involved
in the BCCI-First American case. Bush's campaign press representatives has done PR
for a Saudi sheik accused of involvement in the BCCI affair, earning $200,000 in fees in
just two months.
Employees of Stephens Inc. give more money to the Clinton campaign than those of
any other firm except Goldman, Sachs and the NY law firm of Wilke, Farr &
Stephens' Worthen Bank gives Clinton a $3.5 million line of credit allowing the cash-strapped candidate to finish the primaries. Little Rock Worldwide Travel provides
Clinton with $1 million in deferred billing for his campaign trips. Without the Worthen
and Worldwide largess, it is unlikely that the cash-strapped candidate could have
survived through the later primaries.
Webster Hubbell, a former Rose law firm partner -- although not known for skill in
Asian trade matters -- goes to work for a Lippo Group affiliate after being forced out of
the Clinton administration and before going to jail. Hubbell represented both Worthen
and James Riady during the 1980s.
With the settlement of civil fraud charges against Clark Clifford and Robert Altman,
the puny and often diverted investigation into the American branch of the BCCI scandal
effectively comes to an end. Under the deal, the pair will have to surrender $5 million in
stock in First American Bankshares, which had been illegally controlled by BCCI. They
will, however, get to keep $10-15 million in proceeds obtained during their tenure as
First American attorneys.
The BCCI scandal cheated depositors out of over $10 billion worldwide. Many of
these were lower income people now being paid off at 15 and 25 cents on the dollar for
damage done by a illegal operation willingly used not only by hundreds of drug dealers
and other criminals from various countries but by the intelligence services of five
nations (including the CIA) and at least one government, Pakistan, seeking to
finance its nuclear weapons development.
Things always moved a little too smoothly in the BCCI investigation, leaving scores of
unanswered questions and, so far as can be determined, hardly anyone to blame. One
exception, Swaleh Naqvi, BCCI's number two man, was given a mild sentence -- over
the objections of Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. He later told
prosecutors that he had never explained to Altman and Clifford who really owned First
Naqvi's plea bargain with Justice appeared to have been what the Wall Street Journal
called "sweetheart justice."
Said the Journal: "When drugs and money laundering arrive, political corruption
cannot be far behind. If we had an explanation of how BCCI got away with its
illegal purchase of First American, we could afford to dismiss such ambiguous
connections as lawyer-client relationships. But we have no such answer, and are
left to speculate why, in the Naqvi plea-bargain, the Justice Department does not
seem to be pressing for one."
The American media has studiously downplayed the story to the end. The New York
Times, for example, put the Altman-Clifford settlement on its business page.
But while the story has disappeared not all the characters connected to this saga have.
One, for example, is still president and another is ahead in the polls....
For more, GO TO > > > The Strange Saga of BCCI
From Free Republic, Dec 12, 1998, posted by Stefan Lemieszewski:
The Secret Financial Network Behind
‘Wizard’ George Soros
This is another post in the series along the theme that: “Corrupt elites prosper at the
people’s expense of the IMF, World Bank and ‘shock therapy’ policies of Western
advisors under the guise of free-trade or democratic or market-reforms.” . . .
In his article, “Communique of American-Ukrainian Advisory Committee,” ...
Eugene M. Iwanciw wrote: “The American-Ukrainian Advisory Committee met in New
York on Nov 17-18, 1995 and reiterated its strong conviction that a resilient Ukraine is
in the interest of European stability and thus also American security.” . . .
The American participants of the AUAC sponsored by the Center for Strategic and
International Studies (CSIS) included:
Zbigniew Brzezinski (CSIS counselor); Richard Burt (chairman, International Equity
Partners); Frank Carlucci (chairman, Carlyle Group); Gen. John Galvin (dean,
Fletcher School of International Law and Diplomacy); Michael Jordan (chairman
and CEO, Westinghouse Electric Corp); Henry Kissinger (chairman, Kissinger
Associates) and George Soros (chairman, Soros Foundation).
Previous American advisers of AUAC included Malcolm Steve Forbes, Jr. (editor-in-chief, Forbes magazine) ... and Dwayne Orville Andreas (chairman and CEO, Archer
Daniels Midland Co.), whose company pleaded guilty last month for anti-trust and
price-fixing violations and agreed to pay a $100 million fine– the largest fine on its kind
Also in a previous post it was indicated that at least six of the current seven American
members of AUAC are also members of the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR),
including George Soros. . . .
George Soros is part of a tightly knit financial mafia– “mafia,” in the sense of a closed
masonic-like fraternity of families pursuing common aims. Anyone who dares to
criticize Soros or any of his associates, is immediately hit with the charge of being “anti-Semitic”– a criticism which often silences or intimidates genuine critics of Soros’s
unscrupulous operations. . . .
According to knowledgeable U.S. and European investigators, Soros’s circle includes
indicted metals and commodity speculator and fugitive Marc Rich of Zug, Switzerland
and Tel Aviv; secretive Israeli arms and commodity dealer Shaul Eisenberg, and
“Dirty Rafi” Eytan, both linked to the financial side of the Israeli Mossad; and the
family of Jacob Lord Rothschild. . . .
Rich, Reichmann, and Soros’s Israeli Links.
According to reports of former U.S. State Dept intelligence officers familiar with the
Soros case, Soros’s Quantum Fund amassed a war chest of well over $10 billion, with
the help of a powerful group of “silent” investors who let Soros deploy the capital to
demolish European monetary stability in September 1992.
Among Soros’s silent investors, these sources say, are the fugitive metals and oil trader
Marc Rich, based in Zug, Switzerland; and Shaul Eisenberg, a decades-long member
of Israeli Mossad intelligence, who functions as a major arms merchant throughout
Asia and the Near East. Eisenberg was recently banned from doing business in
Uzbekistan, where he had been accused by the government of massive fraud and
corruption. A third Soros partner is Israel’s “Dirty Rafi” Eytan, who served in London
previously as Mossad liaison to British intelligence.
Rich was one of the most active western traders in oil, aluminum, and other
commodities in the Soviet Union and Russia between 1989 and 1993. This, not
coincidentally, is just the period when Grigori Luchansky’s Nordex Group became a
multibillion-dollar company selling Russian oil, aluminum, and other commodities. . . .
From European-American Evangelistic Crusades, Inc. 9 February 2001:
THE ELECTIONS IN ISRAEL
by John S. Torrell
Most Gentiles living today do not know a whole lot about Israel and its people. Some
people might remember that Israel became a state in 1948, but why and how it
happened is not well known today. Evangelical Christians are told by their leaders that,
as Christians, they must support Israel at any cost or God will curse them. That this is
not in the Bible, it is nowhere to be found, does not bother the Christian leadership. It’s
the official doctrine, right or wrong.
Neither are Christians told by their leaders, that most Jewish people in Israel do not
believe in God but are atheists embracing a culture called Judaism. The few Jews who
do believe in God and live in Israel are called "Ultra Nationalists," and are portrayed in a
negative light on newscasts where they are shown either praying at the Wailing Wall,
throwing stones at other Jews, or blocking streets in protest.
Most of the Jewish political leaders, including bankers, business men, military officers
and industrial leaders, have embraced Zionism which is a Cabalistic system working to
bring their messiah into power. These people have rejected the God of Abraham, Isaac
and Jacob and have embraced the Luciferian teaching of the Cabala.
What happens in Israel will affect the entire world. A war in the Middle East could easily
escalate into a World War. I also want to educate my readers to understand, that the
World Government leaders do not reside in Israel but in New York, London and
The local Jewish leaders in Israel are well aware that the State of Israel is just another
province to the World Government and that local issues in Israel are not necessarily
embraced by the Jewish World Leaders. Anyone reading the Jewish media knows the
infighting that is constantly taking place between Israeli Jews and Jews living in other
Knowing this, you will be able to understand why local Israeli members of the Knesset
(parliament) in Jerusalem voted for a campaign finance law in 1994, which prohibits
foreign (Jewish) contributions to Israeli parties and partisan political campaigns.
In other words, the Jews living in Israel do not want to be run as colonists by Jews living
in other nations. There are a total of 14 million Jews living in the world today, and of
these only four million reside in the State of Israel.
In the 1988 Israeli election, Shimon Peres received $1.6 million from Canadian Jewish
Whiskey distiller, Charles Bronfman and the French Jewish tycoon Jean Friedman.
(The Bronfman family is one of the most powerful Jewish families today. Charles’
brother Edgar Bronfman is the current president of the World Jewish Congress, and
his son, Edgar "Effer" Bronfman Jr. is in charge of Seagrams [an American alcohol
distiller giant], MCA Universal studios in Hollywood, ABC news, and a number of other
In the 1992 election, a total of $4 million dollars flowed into Israel in order to sway the
election according to the World Government scheme. In the 1996 election, despite the
ban of foreign money, $8 million dollars flowed into Israel from American Jews. Since
the money cannot be given directly to a candidate, it is used in the same way as
elections are done in America and it is called "soft money”. Advertisement is purchased
to promote the platform of a candidate, without mentioning his name. It is also used to
register new voters (especially the large number of Russian Jews who have been
arriving in Israel), furnish transportation for them, organize rallies and bring in busloads
of protesters. The most costly of them all, flying in Jews from other nations to register
them as voters.
The worst meddling came in the 1999 election when Benjamin Netanyahu was running
against Ehud Barak. The latter was the choice of Edgar Bronfman, and to make sure
that Barak would win, former President Bill Clinton dispatched his worst "attack dog,"
James Carville, and a group of democratic election specialists who managed to get
Barak elected through their smear, slash and burn campaign. Inside sources place the
money which flowed into Israel on this project to at least $10 million.
But in the early part of 2000, Israel’s state comptroller fined Barak’s "One Israel Party"
$3 million for having illegally taken money from foreign sources. This was the beginning
of the erosion of power for prime minister Barak.
SOME MAJOR MONEY SOURCES
The World Government is relying on some of the super rich American Jews to funnel
money into Israel. The American Jew, S. Daniel Abraham, the owner of "Slim Fast"
and a major investor in the dieting aides market, has been a major donor to dovish
candidates, and it has been reported that he arranged a dinner meeting between Barak
and Yasser Arafat toward the end of year 2000.
Another donor is the American Jew, Haim Saban, chairman of "Fox Kids Worldwide,”
and known as one of the most powerful Jews in Hollywood. Two of his best known
productions are, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" and "Mighty Morphin Power
Rangers.” Saban hosted a reception for Barak during the 1999 elections, that netted
The American Jew, Ron Lauder, the son of Estee Lauder and heir to her $8.2 billion
cosmetic company has been in opposition to Edgar Bronfman and supported the right-wing party, Likud.
The American Jew, Irving Moskowitz, a retired obstetrician and owner of gaming
businesses close to Los Angeles, has also been in opposition against Bronfman. This
retired medical doctor has given his money to buy homes in Palestinian areas, and has
settled Jewish families there, particularly in Jerusalem. These are just a few of the
wealthy American Jews who do not live in Israel but are eager to dictate policies for the
people living there.
In a small nation like Israel, with a total of some six million people (2 million Israeli
Arabs) a few million dollars will make a big difference during elections.
In the elections just held in Israel, only 58 % of the voters went to the polls. Many
people in Israel did not like either candidate, and just stayed home. With Ariel Sharon
winning 62.1 % of the votes, he will take this as a mandate to implement his policies.
The danger with Sharon is that he is known as a ruthless man who is responsible
for terrible war crimes, both in Lebanon and in previous wars. Being old, he has
nothing to lose, and he might just start a war to prove a point and try to make a
name for himself. He will be opposed by the World Government and I would not
be surprised if he was taken out by assassination.
Those people who have knowledge of Jewish history, will remember prime minister
Yitzak Rabin, who was murdered in public in November, 1995. Just as in the murder of
Prime Minister Olof Palme (Jewish) in Stockholm, Sweden in 1986, the Swedish
intelligence service "SAPO," was implicated along with the Israeli intelligence service,
"the Mossad," in the murder of Rabin.
It is not in the World Government’s interest at this time to have a major war on its hands
in the Middle East. They are not going to be able to do what they did in 1948, when
huge numbers of Palestinians were eliminated. With global television, the world
population would not accept the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of Arabs.
You can rest assured that Bronfman and his staff are now working overtime to control
Sharon and make sure he does not start a war.
Remember this, it was Ariel Sharon’s visit to the Arab controlled Temple Area that
sparked the current cycle of violence in Israel.
This was a very well planned visit. This is how he began his campaign to become
prime minister and the road is paved by dead bodies from both sides who had to die for
Sharon to have his way.
THE PRESIDENTIAL PARDON OF MARC RICH
When Bill Clinton gave a presidential pardon to Marc Rich on the last day of his
presidency, just hours before George W. Bush was sworn in as the new president,
most Americans did not know who this man was and what he has done. As the facts
are now coming out, it again shows the corruption of Bill Clinton and his total lack of
integrity. . . .
Let me give you the facts and then you can make your own judgment.
Here is what the media told you: Marc Rich has an ex-wife, night club singer and
song writer, Denise, who lives in New York. She raised one million dollars for the
Democratic Party and gave Bill and Hillary furniture worth $7,000.00 for their new home
in New York. She also asked Bill to pardon her ex-husband. At official parties in New
York she was caught on video tapes, giving Bill warm and snug embraces, more
passionate than what Monica Lewinsky was seen to do. Some of these video tapes
were aired on national news coverage.
When the Al Gore campaign demanded a recount in Florida, Denise Rich gave
$25,000.00 to Al Gore to help pay for the recount. At a dinner party in New York on
November 30,2000, Denise gave Bill Clinton an expensive saxophone, which was
recorded on a picture where Hillary Clinton is standing on one side applauding, Bill is in
the middle holding up the saxophone and Denise is standing on the other side.
This is all the media (World Government) wanted you to know. Now, here is the
rest of the story.
Marc David Rich was born in Antwerp, Belgium on December 18, 1934, to Jewish
parents. His parents fled from Europe to escape the Nazis and came to the United
States. As a young man Marc was recruited by the Israeli intelligence service, the
Mossad. A number of brilliant and talented young Jewish men were recruited in the
years after World War II, the most well known of them was Robert Maxwell. Here is a
brief rundown on Maxwell so that my readers will understand the vastness of this spy
Maxwell’s original name was Jan Ludvik Hoch, who was born to Jewish parents in
Slatina-Selo, Czechoslovakia, 1923. Most of Hoch’s family died in Hitler’s concentration
camps, but Jan was able to flee, first to France and then to England, where he joined
the British army and became and officer. At that time he changed his name to Robert
Maxwell. His Mossad handlers placed Robert in Germany after the war where he was
given access to highly classified German academic and scientific papers, which he sold
for a high profit in England. The money was used to purchase a publishing house in
England which, in 1951, he named Pergamon Press Ltd. Money was pumped in by the
Mossad and Maxwell purchased a number of other businesses in the publishing
industry. He ran for the British Parliament on a Labor ticket, and served between 1964-70.
Robert Maxwell became morally corrupted, as do most intelligence agents. He had a
great appetite for women and luxury. In his many wheelings and dealings he spent
more than he had, so he began to borrow from pension funds and floating loans.
He mishandled his business and siphoned off $1.2 million dollars from his two major
corporations, but his financial empire continued to sink. If he had become an
embarrassment to the Mossad or if he had made some major blunders is not known,
but the Mossad decided to take him out. While he was sailing on his luxury yacht (with
a large crew) outside the Canary Islands, Mossad agents on the ship stripped him of his
clothes, injected him with a lethal dose of poison and dumped his naked body into the
water. Instead of drifting out into the South Atlantic, his body floated the other way and
washed up on a beach on the Canary Islands, on November 5, 1991.
After the Spanish police had identified the body and done an autopsy, the Government
of Israel requested that the body be given to them and Robert Maxwell was buried in a
cemetery for Jewish heroes in Israel.
There are two other Jewish men, who cannot be confirmed to have been Mossad
agents, but who have greatly affected political events in the world, and that is the
German born Jew, Henry Alfred Kissinger (born May 27, 1923 in Furth, Germany,
whose parents moved to the United States in 1938 to escape the Nazis) and the
Hungarian born Jew, George Soros (born in Budapest, August 12, 1930, surviving the
Nazi years and as a family moved to London in 1947). Most people are aware that
Kissinger has been and is a major player in world politics, and Soros runs a financial
business known as the Quantum Fund. Soros is feared by all national governments.
Wherever he is investing and dealing, the local currency will plummet, and when he is
done with a nation, he walks away with billions in profits.
According to the FBI, Marc Rich speaks French, German and English. He used to have
citizenship in the United States, Spain and Israel. Since he fled from the United States
in 1983 together with one of his partners, the American Jew, Pincus Green, both he
and Green have renounced their American citizenship. He has been living in
Switzerland since his flight, and also has his business headquarters there. He has
personal wealth in billions of dollars.
Rich was indicted on September 19, 1983, by a U.S. Federal Grand Jury on more than
fifty counts of wire fraud, racketeering, trading with the enemy and evading more than
$48 million in income taxes.
When the American embassy was stormed in Tehran ,Iran on November 4, 1979, they
held the entire American staff hostage for 14 months. The United States was able to
organize a total embargo on trade with Iran during the stand off. In April, 1980, Marc
Rich conspired with the Iranian Government to purchase six million barrels of oil and
sell it on the world market. Payments were made fraudulently through American banks
and illegal use of American telecommunications facilities (profit: $200 million)....
WHO REQUESTED THE PARDON FOR MARC RICH?
The most vocal person requesting a pardon for Marc Rich was Mrs. Denise Rich, who
not only had become "a friend" of the Clintons, but gave huge amounts of money and
personal gifts to them. Secondly, the sitting prime minister of Israel, Ehud Barak,
repeatedly cited Rich’’s contributions to Israel’’s "national security" in phone calls to Bill
Clinton during his last month in office. Former Mossad chief Shabtai Shavit (1989-1996) wrote a letter to Clinton confirming that Rich provided "assistance" to the Israeli
spy agency (the Mossad) that produced results "beyond the expected."
The lead attorney for Marc Rich in the United States is Jack Quinn, a former White
House counsel for Bill Clinton. When defending his pardon of Marc Rich, Clinton states
that he based his decision on "critical information" provided by Jack Quinn. The latter
based his "critical information" on an analysis done a decade ago by Georgetown
University Jewish law professor, Martin Ginsburg. He is the husband of Supreme
Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (also Jewish), who was appointed to the
Supreme Court by Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton did not consult with the Justice Department, nor with the FBI or any other
federal law agency.
SOME OTHER LAST MINUTE PARDONS BY BILL CLINTON
Former CIA director John M. Deutch (born in Brussels, Belgium, July 27, 1938, the son
of a German Jewish couple who had fled from Germany and then moved to the United
States in 1940) had previously been indicted for having taken home classified
information and kept it on his home computer. As he was trying to work out a plea
bargain and plead guilty to a misdemeanor, he was given a presidential pardon the last
hours before Bill Clinton ceased to be president.
There were also four Hasidic Jews from New York, Benjamin Berger, Jacob Elbaum,
David Goldstein and Kalmen Stern who had been sentenced to prison for having
swindled the government of tens of million of dollars with various fraudulent schemes.
They had set up a fictitious Jewish school, a yeshiva, and then collected tens of millions
of dollars from various Federal programs to support the nonexistent school and its
Of the 140 felons receiving a last minute pardon from Clinton, 17 are Jewish.
Some more facts as we close this newsletter: When former president, Bill Clinton, took
office after his election in 1992, he appointed 37 American Jews to his administration,
which consisted of 67 openings. Six American Jews held a cabinet post and he
appointed two American Jews to the Supreme Court, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and
Stephen Breyer. Both paid their dues back to Clinton when the Supreme Court
made a final decision of the presidential election in the State of Florida.
The prestigious Jewish magazine, The Jerusalem Report, makes the following
statements in its January 15, 2001 issue in an article titled "Unchartered Waters.”
"The Jews are not at the table. Once again, for American Jews, the sky is falling. At
noon on January 20, George W. Bush takes office as president, unbeholden to a
community that voted overwhelmingly for his opponent, Al Gore.... The most obvious
manifestation of the Jews’ diminished influence in the new administration is their small
numbers within Bush’s inner circle. His initial cabinet appointments included not one
Jew. After the Clinton years, when Jews held a high number of senior posts, that’s a
For more, GO TO > > > Tracking the Flock of AIPAC Vultures
(CGI-BIN) MORE THAN 80 HIGH-RANKING OFFICIALS of the U.S. government
have left federal service since 1986 to represent or lobby for foreign trade or
security interests, according to a March 1992 General Accounting Office (GAO)
The report, "Foreign Agent Registration: Former Officials Representing Foreign
Interests Before the U.S. Government," identifies two senators, one congressperson,
seven White House officials, 33 senior congressional staff and 39 executive agency
officials who have gone on to represent public or private interests from 43 countries.
"These people are using their training and access to privileged and sensitive economic
information ... to sell out to the highest bidder at a later date," said Representative
Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, in releasing the GAO report.
Officials who have left through the revolving door include: William E. Brock, former
Secretary of Labor and United States Trade Representative from 1981 to 1985, who
has represented the governments of Taiwan and Panama, as well as the Mexican
Ministry of Commerce during the debate over "fast-track authority" for trade
agreements; former Senator Mark Andrews, who has represented over 17 Japanese
businesses since he left the Senate in 1986; and Michael Smith, former deputy trade
representative at the State Department, who is currently serving as a consultant to the
governments of Mexico and Canada , and to the Canadian Sugar Institute.
The revolving door is a two-way problem, with individuals who previously represented
foreign interests occupying top positions in the U.S. trade bureaucracy, according to a
recent report from the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Public Integrity. Current U.S.
Trade Representative Carla Hills, for example, was registered in 1985 as a
representative for Daewoo Industrial Co., Ltd., a Korean conglomerate, and has also
worked for the foreign companies Panasonic Industries and Reuter.
Several House members have proposed legislation to curtail government officials’
revolving door activities. Kaptur and other legislators are proposing legislation that
would restrict trade officials and senior members of the executive and legislative
branches from lobbying after leaving government service. The bill will probably be
introduced in May, according to Kaptur’s office. . . .
NOW TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT SOME OF THE
CLINTON GANG POLITIC
Donald Rumsfield - “Rummy” to his friends.
From nancymarkle.com (www.nancymarkle.com/nutrapoison/believers.html):
G.D. Searle, the pharmaceutical firm that introduced NutraSweet, worked symbiotically
with federal and congressional officials, bribed investigators when violations of law
were exposed, “anything” to move aspartame to market.
As far back as 1969, an internal Searle "strategy memo" concluded the company must
obtain FDA approval to outpace firms competing for the artificial sweetener market.
Another memo in December 1970 urged that FDA officials were to be "brought into a
subconscious spirit of participation" with Searle.
To that end, with enormous profits at stake, the pharmaceutical house set out on a long
struggle to transform the Pentagon's biochemical warfare agent into "the taste
Mother Nature intended”....
Aspartame found early opposition in consumer attorney James Turner, author of The
Chemical Feast and a former Nader's Raider. At his own expense, Turner fought
approval for ten years, basing his argument on aspartame's potential side effects,
particularly on children.
His concern was shared by Dr. John Olney, Professor of neuropathology and psychiatry
at Washington School of Medicine in St. Louis. Dr. Olney found that aspartame,
combined with MSG seasoning, increased the odds of brain damage in
Internally, aspartame breaks down into its constituent amino acids and methanol, which
degrades into formaldehyde. The FDA announced in 1984 that "no evidence" has been
found to establish that the methanol byproduct reaches toxic levels, claiming that "many
fruit juices contain higher levels of the natural compound."
But the Medical World News had already reported in 1978 that the methanol content of
aspartame is 1,000 times greater than most foods under FDA control....
Senator Orrin Hatch, a hidebound archconservative and NutraSweet advocate,
downplayed criticism of the sugar substitute.
"Some people have lost their memory after drinking a variety of things," he argued.
''The bottom line is this: The studies supporting aspartame's approval have been
examined and reexamined. More than enough sound, valid studies exist to demonstrate
Hatch of Utah, reports the Wall Street Journal, has "given his strong support of the
So have the "Hatchlings."
David Kessler, FDA Commissioner under presidents Bush and Clinton, was once an
aide to Orrin Hatch.
Hatch's former campaign manager and aide, C. McClain Haddow, was sentenced to
prison for conflict-of-interest charges arising from his work as a Reagan
administration health official.
And Thomas Parry, Hatch's former chief of staff, has carved a sumptuous life for
himself as a Republican fund-raiser and lobbyist with clients in the pharmaceutical
industry. All told, Parry represents 30 clients, including Eli Lilly, Warner-Lambert, and
Johnson & Johnson, not to mention ranking defense firms and the Bahamas
Parry's pharmaceutical clients have enriched Senator Hatch's campaign coffers, and in
turn Hatch lavishes his attentions on them.
By the time Orrin Hatch was stumping for NutraSweet in the U.S. Senate, the Center
for Disease Control in Atlanta had received 600 letters complaining of
NutraSweet's adverse effects. The National Soft Drink Association (NSDA) had them
Also at the center of the effort to land FDA approval of NutraSweet stood Donald
Rumsfeld - "Rummy" to his friends - chairman of G.D. Searle upon leaving the Ford
administration in 1977.
Rumsfeld, the product of a wealthy Chicago suburb, was a Princeton graduate and a
Navy pilot during the Korean conflict. He entered politics as a Congressional House
aide attending night classes at Georgetown University Law School, which is closely
aligned with the CIA.
Rumsfeld campaigned ambitiously for Richard Nixon, who drafted him to direct the
Office of Equal Opportunity on May 26,1969. He quickly established an office to spy on
his employees in a holy crusade to flush out "revolutionaries" said to be granting federal
funds to politically subversive organizations-a throwback to McCarthy's tantrums.
Rumsfeld also figured in Nixon's notorious Power Control Group, spearheaded by
Charles Colson and John Ehrlichman.
Gerald Ford named Rumsfeld executive chief of staff upon the resignation of Al Haig.
In 1986 he was named chairman of the Institute for Contemporary Studies, a
neoconservative "think tank" (read: propaganda mill) established in 1972 by Edwin
Meese and Caspar Weinberger.
ICS has sponsored such opinion-shaping projects as a study of expansions in
"entitlement programs" and their erosive effects on the economy, and a book on the
uses of coercion by Communist regimes.
Rumsfeld, at 43, became the county's youngest secretary of defense.
For many years he has been a vocal proponent of chemical weapons. He is
chairman of the Rand Corp.
In 1988, he dropped a presidential bid, and was named a v.p. of Westmark Systems,
led by past NSA Director Bobby Ray Inman.
Rumsfeld was one of Westmark's founding directors, sharing the board with Joseph
Amato, a former vice president at TRW (and a colleague of Inman's at the National
Security Agency), and Dale Frey, chairman of the General Electric Investment Corp.
Rumsfeld, a veteran political operative, was an adept at the vulgar art of public
relations. He was recruited by G.D. Searle because he had "a Boy Scout image,"
according to one company official.
A house politician was precisely what Searle needed to compensate for the damage
done by independent researchers concerned about the toxic effects of aspartame. In
March 1976, an FDA task force brought into question all of the company's testing
procedures between 1967 and 1975.
The task force described "serious deficiencies in Searle's operations and practices
which undermine the basis for reliance on Searle's integrity."
The final report of the FDA task force noted faulty and fraudulent product testing,
knowingly misrepresented findings, and instances of "irrelevant or unproductive
animal research where experiments have been poorly conceived, carelessly
executed or inaccurately analyzed."
For more, GO TO > > > The NutraSweet Syndrome; Rand Corporation
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The following is a Radio Interview between James Norman, formerly Senior Editor of
Forbes Magazine and now with Media Bypass Magazine and Jim Quinn, DJ of WRRK
96.9 FM in Pittsburgh.
In this interview from December 7th, 1995, they discuss issues of national importance
and STUNNING IMPACT.
Essentially they give out the reason for Vincent Foster's Death, and the fact that the
"resignations" of the Congresspersons are NOT for policy reasons but because they
have been caught with millions in corrupt funds in Swiss Banks.
Read this to learn what the "mainstream media" doesn't ever tell you...
Quinn's Interview with Jim Norman
QUINN: Jim Norman, former Senior Editor at Forbes Magazine, and currently writing for
Media Bypass Magazine after having uncovered Caspar Weinberger's Swiss bank
account (we do get punished for some of the truths we uncover, do we not?). Jim is on
the phone with us this morning. Good Morning, Jim.
NORMAN: Hi, how are you?
QUINN: Pretty good. I want to give people a chance to get an idea of what it is we are
going to launch into after 8 o'clock, and I want to give some background into this. Is it
fair to say that since Iran-Contra that the government has sort of been involved in the
NORMAN: Yes, it goes way back before then, actually. It goes back even to the
Vietnam War days -- remember the Golden Triangle, Laos, Cambodia and all that,
Pakistan and Afghanistan, but it was always on a much smaller scale. What
apparently happened was that in the 80s we got into it in a big way, basically
nationalizing the wholesale importation of drugs from Central and South America. The
idea was that we control it somehow that way; instead, it has just become the tail
wagging the dog, I think.
QUINN: It's become the funding source for just about anything that the government
covertly wants to do, and for the moneys that various elements of the government don't
want to ask the Congress for, nor do they want Congress to know about.
NORMAN: Right. And it's an arms business, too. They are kind of all tied up together.
QUINN: So it's arms and drugs?
QUINN: Kenneth Starr is currently our Whitewater prosecutor, and I have long said on
this show that I find Ken Starr interesting but also troubling in that there are many
elements to the Whitewater scandal. Part of the laments have to do with banking and
have to do with Madison Savings and Loan, check kiting, stuff that went on with the
Arkansas Development Financial Authority, but basically there are really two
elements -- there is Whitewater and then there is all the stuff with Mena Airport,
Iran-Contra, drugs into the country, various unexplained deaths, one of them
Vince Foster, the possibility of espionage on the part of the first lady, and all of
this lies behind a brick wall that Mr. Starr has been positioned upon to make sure
that they get Clinton but that the fire doesn't burn past that wall; because on the
other side of that wall are Republicans and Democrats. Am I right?
NORMAN: That's right. He is not looking at Mena; he doesn't have the authority to from
Janet Reno. He does have authority to look at the Vince Foster death, but I think only
inasmuch as it relates to the Whitewater situation. The whole thing is hemmed in and
beyond that is this whole national security blanket that has been thrown over big parts
of this thing that you couldn't touch if you wanted to.
QUINN: It's interesting, I find, that Dr. Henry Lee, who was part of the defense team for
the Simpson trial, has ended up working on the Vince Foster affair. The word that I get
is that he is going to say it was indeed a suicide. You have to remember something
about Dr. Henry Lee -- he was, oddly enough, the guy that was called in to do some
work on the Danny Casolaro death down in Martinsburg, way back in the early nineties.
Was it 1991?
NORMAN: I think it was 1991.
QUINN: This was that reporter that you may have heard about that was found dead in a
motel room, supposedly from a self-inflicted wound, even though the papers (a year's
worth of investigative reporting) were all missing. He was working on the story that he
called the "octopus" and basically it's the same story that you are working on, isn't it?
NORMAN: Yes, I know I'm talking to a lot of the same sources. Danny supposedly
slashed his wrists twelve times, sometimes deep enough to cut the tendon.
QUINN: Yeah, right. And his files were all missing. Sure, there's a suicide. Right. And
they embalmed his body before they even had a chance to inform his parents that he
was dead. So it's another "Arkanside."
NORMAN: George Williamson, who is an investigative reporter out of San Francisco,
has been working on that. He has come up with all kinds of stuff -- other witnesses that
have disappeared, people in the hotel who just aren't there anymore -- disappeared
QUINN: It's interesting. There are a lot of people who are witnesses to various deaths
involved with this Arkansas crowd, Danny Casolaro for one. Also, the two young boys
on the railroad tracks down in Arkansas who stumbled on the drug operation. A lot of
the witnesses around that have met violent and untimely deaths as well. So here are a
great deal of ugly people involved in this. We are going to get down to what it all means
in terms of government corruption and scandal of immense proportions that touch both
parties. This is really nonpartisan. The fact that I don't happen to like "President
Pantload" doesn't have a whole lot to do with this; he was just sort of a guy who
happened to be there with his hand out at the time. It all goes back to the late 70's, right
NORMAN: Yeah, and even before that. Let's start with the early 80s when Bill Casey
came into office in the CIA under Ronald Reagan. That's when our government
decided to embark on this amazing and extremely unbelievably successful effort to spy
on the world's banks. We did it! We have been spying on world banking transactions for
more than a dozen years. The way we do it is by basically forcing foreign banks,
wittingly or unwittingly, to buy bugged software and bugged computers that let our NSA
(National Security Agency) which is the intelligence arm of the government, to basically
surveil wire transfers all over the globe.
QUINN: Let me ask you this. How do you sucker the rest of the banking community
around the globe into buying the software that you are selling?
NORMAN: First of all you sell to front companies like this company Systematics in
Arkansas, now called Alltel Information Services. They had another company called
Boston Systematics, an affiliate based in Israel mainly. There is Robert Maxwell, the
UK publisher, who is fronting this stuff. There are a whole bunch of people fronting this.
QUINN: Wait a minute, Robert Maxwell -- isn't he dead?
NORMAN: Yeah, he is now.
QUINN: Didn't he have an unfortunate accident?
NORMAN: Fell off his yacht in the Atlantic Ocean somewhere.
QUINN: Why, isn't that amazing!
NORMAN: The tinkering of it was mainly putting back doors, just a few lines of code,
that would allow somebody to dial into a computer without leaving any footprints, any
audit trail that you were in there. Then you could go around and look around in files or
you could collect information from a system without the user even knowing it
QUINN: Now this software, which was originally called Promis, was stolen from a
company called Inslaw by the Justice Department. It ended up somewhere, probably at
E-Systems or somewhere, and it was converted into banking software. It Started out as
software designed to track prosecutorial cases around the country. My question is --
why didn't Ed Meese just pay the damn bill, and none of this would ever have come to
light! Danny Casolaro was chasing the stolen software when he stumbled on what it
was being used for.
NORMAN: Well, the trouble with it was that they bought it for use in the Justice
Department, but they were going to use it all over the place. If they were paying
royalties on it, Inslaw would know just how extensive the use was of the software, and
they didn't want people to know how extensively it was going to be used.
QUINN: I see...
NORMAN: Plus, a lot of the profits from the resale of this went back into private profits.
It was customized and resold to the intelligence community. It became sort of a basic
platform database tracking system for most of our intelligence agencies and many of
those abroad. The idea was "Well, we can all talk to each other now." In fact what it has
allowed us to do is basically rifle through other people's data files abroad too, because
the stuff was apparently being sold to foreign intelligence agencies and it was also
bugged. We have other ways of basically surveilling and downloading foreign electronic
databases. The whole computer world is much more porous and transparent than
anybody wants you to believe.
QUINN: There is a bank here that I know that uses this software right here in this town,
and I'm sure that there is probably more than one. Everybody's got it.
NORMAN: In some form or another. It goes under different names now. It's been
modified many times. I think when Inslaw had it, it was a half million lines of code. I'm
told now it's a couple of million lines anyway. It's gone through many, many
modifications over the years.
QUINN: This company, Systematics, which is I believe still 8% owned by Jackson
Stevens at Stevens Inc., who, by the way, is one of the backers of Bob Dole -- how
troubling is that?
NORMAN: He is the co-chairman of Dole's finance committee.
QUINN: That's right! Bob's in town -- Hi Bob -- You'd better explain this. You'd better
explain Mena, too, Bob, or it's going to follow you to the White House. Systematics, I
understand, had an attorney who was kind of off the record doing work for them, named
Vince Foster. Is that true?
NORMAN: Yep, that's true. We've heard that from many, many sources now. In fact,
Jim Leach's committee has established that pretty well with some of the investigation
that they have done. Foster was a trusted deal guy for Stevens at the law firm. Although
Foster never shows up officially as an attorney of record for Systematics, he was
definitely in the loop, basically smoothing out things between Systematics and the NSA,
which was the main government agency that was contracting for a lot of this stuff.
QUINN: So this is how Foster got involved in intelligence, right.
NORMAN: Yes, because there is heavy duty code and computer technology stuff
involved here. Apparently, some time in the early 80s he developed this relationship
with the State of Israel. In fact, some of the same handlers I am told were involved in
the Jonathan Pollard case. They basically nurtured him and groomed him for many
years and then bingo, they hit the jackpot -- he ended up in the White House.
Apparently he convinced Hillary to help him out on some stuff.
QUINN: So... what is Foster involved in? It's the mid 80s...
NORMAN: Mid 80s. Foster is at the Rose Law Firm. Think of him as a high-level
marketing guy between Systematics and the NSA.
NSA -- they have all these spooky contracts that they are trying to find contractors for.
Foster would have been sort of a go-between there. Plus Hillary was actually an
attorney of record for Systematics back in 1978 when Stevens tried to take over the
Financial General Bank shares in Washington. Those bank holding companies later
became First American - Clark Clifford, Robert Altman, all that crowd.
QUINN: Yeah, the BCCI thing.
NORMAN: Stevens was fronting for the BCCI crowd and trying to take over this
Washington Bank Holding Co. The SEC blocked him at the time, partly because one
of the things he was insisting on was that this company Systematics, which at that time
was a tiny little thing in Arkansas, he was insisting that they be brought in to do all of the
data processing for this multistate bank holding company in Washington. Hillary
represented Systematics in that. Now the thing about Systematics at the time -- it was
before they even got involved with the bank spying stuff. Abroad for many years, they
had been what amounted to a laundromat for covert funds for the CIA and the
intelligence community, quite legally, probably. It was done for the national interest.
Somebody had to move this money around and Systematics was in a perfect place to
do it because they owned the computers and a whole bunch of small banks. They could
move this money around electronically without the bankers even knowing about it
necessarily, and it wouldn't go through the normal clearing houses. The regulators
wouldn't see it. It would just crop up wherever the CIA needed it in whatever bogus front
company account, and it was all just bits and bytes; it was a cyberbank -- it still is.
QUINN: I'm here with Jim Norman, former Senior Editor at Forbes Magazine. You
know, it's interesting, here is a guy who was with Forbes Magazine, a respected senior
editor who figured probably this would be his life's work. All of a sudden, he finds
himself a defrocked commando journalist working for Media Bypass Magazine out of
what? Evanston, Illinois, or somewhere in Indiana?
QUINN: Yeah, that's right. Now, I've got a question. Before we get into Vince Foster in
the mid 80s and Hillary Clinton's role in this, how did you get onto this whole scandal?
Where did you walk through the door on this?
NORMAN: I came in the back door completely. Look, I had no ax to grind here against
Bill Clinton or the Administration. I hated covering politics. I thought it was all baloney.
I'm just a business writer, and I never wanted to get enmeshed in this whole
Whitewater/Vince Foster thing, but it started -- for a couple of years I had been
following this oil company bankruptcy up in Stamford, Connecticut, because I had
covered oil. This thing never made sense to me. There is no reason why this company
went bust and, in fact, when I actually got into it and started redoing the oil trading
transactions, the reason they lost money: they weren't losing it. They were hiding it.
They were parking it off shore with another company that was financing arms sales to
Iraq, cluster bombs and stuff like that all through the 80s. And, this Chilean arms dealer,
Cardone, who was providing weapons, was also, it turns out, brokering some of the
sales of this stolen software. Okay, that gets me into the software story.
QUINN: So that gets you onto the Promis software, and you and Danny Casolaro are
now on the same road.
NORMAN: Right, and then in the process of that, I started talking to a whole bunch of
rather spooky, strange intelligence community characters, and I was sitting at a guy's
living room down in Kentucky one day. He was sitting there in the middle of the night
blowing smoke rings, and he said, "Yo, by the way, Vince Foster, he was under
investigation." I said, "Under investigation, for what?" And, he said, "Well, it's spelled
'Espionage.'" BOINK!!... and that's how I got on this whole Vince Foster thing.
QUINN: So that's how it happened?
QUINN: Okay, now here it is, the mid 80s. Vince Foster is working for Systematics, and
he is coming into contact with the intelligence community. What is, how did Hillary
Clinton and the Israeli Mossad and all of this come together and what happened?
NORMAN: Well, I think that they had been... look the Israelis were key partners with
us in this bank spying effort. This is a joint allied government effort, and the Israelis
were one of the key front people in this, in selling and supporting this software all over
the world, so that people weren't thinking they were getting the software directly from
the U.S. You know, there was an Israeli front company used to sell this stuff to foreign
QUINN: Well, they sold it to the Moscow bank. I know that.
NORMAN: Well, Systematics did, yeah, and Systematics got involved in supporting
this stuff all over the world, a little company in Arkansas... Go figure. Come on.
QUINN: Yeah, really.
NORMAN: I mean, main software people, they operate in New York and places like that
and not out of Podunk, Arkansas. So, at any rate, the Israelis had ties into this whole
thing all along, and, you know, they are our friends. We do give them a lot of stuff and
share a lot of stuff.
QUINN: Well, the whole idea was to track terrorist money, and the Israelis have a great
interest in that, and rightly so. There is no problem here.
NORMAN: The name of this problem was "follow the money for terrorist reasons," but
once you set that up, you can do all kinds of stuff with it. I mean, we were spying on
everybody's money. I think that's probably how we helped bust the Soviet Union. We
found out just how deep their pockets were, where their money was, who we could
bribe. You know, acting as a financial destruction of their society more than anything.
QUINN: So, how does Foster get involved in espionage?
NORMAN: Well, I think it was money. Money, money, money. And, especially you
know with this whole political thing, it takes so much money to run for office. I mean, my
theory is that the actual spending is probably twice of what anybody declares when you
add up all of the soft dollars and everything. I think there is a tremendous need for
money there, and they just weren't real cautious about where it was coming from.
I think this thing about selling state secrets to the Israeli's and other countries
was just a business. It was just for money. I don't think there was any ideology
involved here at all, and it was one of many businesses. There is also insider
trading going on here. There was the kickback on drugs and arms stuff and so
the money has to go... you have to hide it some way, so it goes into Swiss bank
And Foster would have known that, yeah, we're tracking this money off shore, but there
is such a blizzard of information that unless somebody knows exactly what they are
looking for they would never find anything. They thought they could cover this up pretty
well so Foster had... actually he had several accounts, and there was one in particular
in this bank, bank at Villa Switsaria Italiano in Chaso on the Italian border. It is a little
kind of a Mafia kind of community there reputed, and so he was taking the money in
there for the payments from the Swiss. He was going to Geneva every six or eight
months, and his curious one-day trips -I don't think it was for sightseeing.
QUINN: No. I'm sure he wasn't doing any real estate work for Arkansas.
NORMAN: No. The whole thing about money laundering is... you know the money
would go into a Swiss bank. Somebody would have to go physically and take it out and
take it to a friendly bonded dealer or something like that, buy bearer bonds or other
kinds of bonds or something that you could pledge as collateral for loans back in the
states and turn it back into cash again legitimately, and so that is how money
laundering works. Vince, in effect, was a bag man here because when they go to the
White House all of a sudden they hit the jackpot. There was so much more goodies
there, and, in fact, Deborah Goram, Foster's executive assistant, testified under oath
that Foster had given her two, inch-thick ring binders from the National Security
Agency to put in Bernie Nussbaum's safe in the White House.
What were these binders? Well, I have talked to brokering experts on this stuff, and
they say, "Look, when you are talking NSA binders in the White House, you are
talking mainly one thing, and these are the codes and protocols by which the
President authenticates himself when he has to call up the Pentagon to say 'let's
go nuke somebody'."
Now, what was Foster doing with these things? He had no business with them. He
would have had no access to them. It would have to come from somebody with access
to the Oval Office or the Presidential living quarters.
QUINN: And, who would that be?
NORMAN: Well, I think we know who we are talking about here.
QUINN: We're talking about Hillary Clinton, aren't we?
NORMAN: That's right. She has been under investigation in this whole thing, too, but I
think that they had a strong case against Vince and not such a strong case against
Hillary. But, you see what happened was, and this is another whole part of the story as
to how they got onto Foster. Basically, there was a team of computer hackers and
computer intelligence guys in the CIA who were going through most databases. They
found names there that they identified as being Foster and Hillary.
They put them under surveillance actually before they went to the White House. I think
it was between the election and the time that they went to the White House, and that's
when the alarm bells went off. They had been surveilling these accounts for a while,
and when Foster on July 1, 1993, bought a ticket to Geneva, a round-trip one-day ticket
to Geneva, these guys said, "Oops, he's going to take the money. We're going to beat
him to it." And, they went in. They hacked their way into the bank and obtained the
necessary authorization codes on this coded account for which no signature is required
to withdraw money, by the way.
NORMAN: They were able to effect their own technically legitimate wire transfer of this
money back to the U.S. Treasury, where it sits in a holding account escrowed for use
by the CIA.
QUINN: So, the CIA empties Vince Foster's Swiss bank account of its ill-gotten money.
NORMAN: Yeah, actually it wasn't the CIA. It was this sort of renegade vigilante group
of guys they called the Fifth Column that has been out doing this stuff. They don't take
any of the money for themselves. The money goes to the...
QUINN: They just do it for fun?
NORMAN: The CIA only gets the money. It is escrowed for use by the CIA but only
when the CIA gets rid of a bunch of its bad apples there who've got dirty hands from
drug kickbacks, arms.
QUINN: Let's pick this story up. There was a meeting just before Vince Foster died on
the eastern shore of Maryland in which Webster Hubbell, Vince Foster, and some
others were present. Okay, this was just before Foster died. Pick up the story here.
NORMAN: All right. Well, we mentioned July 1, 1993. Foster buys this round-trip ticket
to Switzerland. They raid his account. They take out $2.73 million. Foster apparently
calls up the bank to let them know he was coming. They say, "Oh, Vince don't you know
you took the money out already?" Boing... that's when he found out he was under
investigation. That's when he got so mysteriously depressed. It had nothing to do with
editorials in the Wall Street Journal. He had his bank account raided big time, and he
knew he was under surveillance, or he knew he was under investigation. And, that
started this curious chain of events. Webster Hubbell testified that not so much Vince
was depressed, but he was worried. He was afraid to use the White House telephones.
The guy had heart palpitations. He couldn't sleep at night. His doctor gave him a
prescription for sleeping pills. His sister tried to get him to talk to some psychiatrist. He
never got in touch with them. Instead, he hired a high-powered lawyer in Washington,
Jim Hamilton, this big deal white-collar crime fix-it guy who handles people who get
hauled up for Congressional hearings. And, then there is this curious meeting the
weekend before Foster died. He and his wife, Lisa, go down to the eastern shore of
Maryland for a getaway weekend, and then, by coincidence, they meet Hubbell and his
wife down there. Hubbell, also from the Rose Law Firm, at the time the country's
de-facto top law enforcement law officer because Janet Reno in effect was taking her
orders from Hubbell. They go over to the estate of Michael Cardoza, who is the
son-in-law of Nathan Landau, a big deal Democratic fund-raiser, and Cardoza is also
the head of Clinton's legal defense fund. Supposedly, this was all poolside chit chat.
Baloney, it was damage control. They were trying to figure out how to contain this
scandal from spreading to other people in the White House, and they were trying to
lean on Vince to get him to, you know, cop a plea, go quietly, or shut up and don't talk
about it. And, in fact, what my sources have told me is that there was actually a huge
payment made to an account held by Lisa Foster, with more than $286,000, on the
Friday before that meeting.
QUINN: Wait a minute, on the Friday before that meeting, Lisa Foster's bank account
gets a deposit of $286 million?
NORMAN: $286,000, yeah.
QUINN: I'm sorry, yeah, $286,000. Okay, so does she take it out?
NORMAN: Well, I don't know what ever happened to that money. It is hard to tell where
it came from even. It is all very mysterious to me, but it sure smells like hush money to
me. It's like, "Look Vince, don't worry, we'll take care of your money."
QUINN: You don't know if she wrote a check on it?
NORMAN: Well, I'm told that it came through the hands somehow of Sheila Anthony,
who was Foster's sister, and at the time she was a "congressional liaison" person at the
Justice Department, whatever a congressional liaison is.
QUINN: So she takes the money to Foster, and Foster turns it down?
NORMAN: Well, no... I think he probably accepted it, or it went there. But, apparently,
he was having second thoughts, I think. You know, on the Monday after they came
back from this meeting, the records showed, the public records showed, that he has a
parade of people coming by his office in the White House saying, "Hey, how'd your
weekend go, Vince? You cool with this? I mean, you on board with all of this?
Everything okay?" you know. Then,...
QUINN: A lot of very nervous people in the White House.
NORMAN: That's right. Then, the day he died he had like a two-hour meeting with
another person from the Arkansas contingent there. I think the problem was that they
were afraid that Vince was going to talk or that he was going to crack under
questioning, and here's a guy who was now, at this point, under intense surveillance. I
mean, he had not only CIA counter intelligence people, but you had NSA. You had FBI
surveilling him. There was a four-person IRS team we know was assigned to tail this
guy, probably in connection with the money laundering aspect of the Swiss bank
QUINN: God, this thing's got everything but floats in the... I mean all they need is
Goofy, a big balloon with ropes on it following this guy around.
NORMAN: You almost did. I mean, you had the Secret Service with a bomb-sniffing
dog squad out there checking his car in the parking lot. The video tapes of that, gone.
The video tapes of the room where they are stored, gone. I mean, this whole thing is
massively covered up, and I guess it is for national security reasons.
QUINN: Well now, I understand that Foster had a meeting scheduled with Bill Clinton.
I believe it was on a Wednesday.
QUINN: And, it was the Tuesday he was killed.
NORMAN: Right. Exactly. The question is well, gee, was he going to drop something in
the President's lap and blow the plausible deniability that he might have on this stuff.
QUINN: Well, this Foster suicide thing is so sloppy. It leads me to believe that on
Tuesday they thought he would take the money and shut up, and he didn't take it so
they had to do something real quick.
NORMAN: Well, that could be it or that even if he wanted to shut up maybe they were
afraid he would crack under interrogation or something. You know, it is just somebody
wanted him real dead, and there is a bunch of people who had ample reason for it. This
was not suicide. It was not over depression. This was a political assassination carried
out on U.S. soil by a foreign government.
The Israelis were involved in this. There was apparently a three-person
Mossad-contracted team that went into the apartment that Foster had gone to that
afternoon where he was apparently lured by a female person from the White House
staff who I think still works in the White House.
QUINN: Now, who would that be?
NORMAN: Well, I...
QUINN: Because, he had sex with her?
NORMAN: That's the impression, yeah.
QUINN: I mean, there was semen on his shorts. There was brownish-blonde hair on his
clothing and rug fibers all over him which may or may not have had to do with having
sex on the floor. It might have been...
NORMAN: No, I think that was because he was rolled up in a rug afterwards and taken
over to Fort Marcy Park. Now, the question is, were elements of our intelligence
community involved in helping to dispose of the body and cover it up some way?
QUINN: Who is the woman in the White House?
NORMAN: I can't say.
QUINN: Patsy Thomason?
NORMAN: No. I don't want to say. I suspect...
QUINN: Dee Dee. Well, she's not there anymore.
NORMAN: That name is known. I mean, she has been identified on these tapes
QUINN: I think Dee Dee and Bill are doing it, but that's just me. Anyway, let's get back
to the story here. Okay, so I understand at least you are claiming that there is a
videotape of Foster's murder?
NORMAN: Well, of the people entering and leaving this apartment a few blocks from
the White House where it apparently occurred.
QUINN: Has anybody located this apartment? Do you know where it is?
NORMAN: I don't know exactly where it is myself. I am told it is actually within a few
blocks of the White House.
QUINN: Okay, so they lure him here, and they pop him, and there is a videotape of it or
there is a videotape of the people going in and out. Then, they go to Fort Marcy Park,
and they dump him.
QUINN: Okay, and we've got a witness now that says they saw the two guys that fit the
same description that Patrick Knowlton, the other witness, to Foster's car. He describes
the one guy that threatens him. One of those people is one of the two that supposedly
was walking Foster, who looked drunk to this guy, into the park, but he says that they
laid him out.
NORMAN: Yeah. I don't know too much about all that stuff, but what I know is this, that
Paul Rodriguez is the Editor of Insight Magazine, that came up with this Mr. X source.
When Forbes decided not to run the story for reasons that were kind of mysterious to
me at the time, and while I was still there, they gave me permission to publish it
elsewhere. And, as I approached Insight, because they are kind of a gutsy magazine,
David Rodriguez made a whole bunch of calls around Washington trying to corroborate
this stuff, and I think he was making some headway. Then, he gets this visit in person
from some military intelligence guy from the Pentagon who comes to him and says,
"Paul, lay off this story. You don't know what you're dealing with here."
QUINN: No. I think we do know what we are dealing with here. We're dealing with the
biggest scandal since maybe...
NORMAN: And, you've got Israeli relations at stake here. You know, the intelligence
community has a lot of joint ventures with the Israelis. They don't want to "queer" those
things. I mean, we do business with those people a lot, and you know a lot of it is
probably quite necessary, but you know there is a scandal here that dwarfs the
Jonathan Pollard case by orders of magnitude really.
QUINN: I want to discuss a couple of things with you. First of all, now it would appear
that a bunch of Republicans picking Kenneth Starr to put him in charge of this
investigation of Vince Foster and the Whitewater problem in Washington, D.C. On
the surface, it looked like they were going for the jugular, but see, Mr. Starr has some
background that leads back to the Inslaw case we discussed earlier in the show
about the Promis software and stuff. He excused himself from that litigation.
NORMAN: And, the reason was because he was the inside counsel for William French
Smith at the Justice Department in 1982 at the time that the Inslaw software was
expropriated by the government...
QUINN: Okay. So he really is not in the position to be the pit bull to expose this. He is in
a better position to get Clinton on whatever Republicans need to get him on and make
sure that Republicans don't get burned here.
NORMAN: I think that's it. Yeah.
QUINN: Okay, now. Given that that's the case and given that the Washington
inside-the-beltway crowd on both sides of the aisle are trying to make sure that the fix
is in on this, how do you think or what leads you to believe that this is going to come
out, and through what channels?
NORMAN: Well, again, it goes back to resources of mine. Basically, there are a few
good guys in the intelligence community, particularly this handful of people in the
so-called Fifth Column, who are so incensed about this bipartisan coverup, the
government's inability and unwillingness to deal with the high level corruption here,
they've just decided to take things into their own hands. They never had government
authorization to go raid the foreign bank accounts, but....
QUINN: How many accounts are there? How many people in the government right
now have Swiss bank accounts filled with money from BCCI, drug laundering,
defense kickbacks, arms trades, I mean all of this nonsense?
NORMAN: Not as many as two years ago. These guys have been out raiding these
accounts. They've pulled back $2.5 billion, more than $2.5 billion with a "B" dollars
from 300, 400, 500 of these accounts. There is probably 3,000 coded Swiss and other
foreign bank accounts that they have been rifling through the computers on.
QUINN: How can there be this many of them and it doesn't come out?
NORMAN: It is because it is endemic corruption. The government is corrupt. Why
should we give the President of South Korea $600 million? ... country more
powerful, more worth corrupting, more venal and with weaker controls for policing this
QUINN: Well, because we don't believe it can happen here.
NORMAN: That's right. We're Americans. Well, this is greed and money. But, there
QUINN: Well, it's murder too.
NORMAN: That's right, and there have been hundreds of these accounts already
raided, and nobody, NOBODY has been able to stand up and say, "I was robbed."
Why? Because, the money came from exactly what you said -- kickbacks on drugs,
kickbacks on arms, insider trading, and they never paid any taxes on this stuff.
They've never disclosed it, and the minimum sentence for willful tax evasion is ten
years, that's the minimum. So, what you have going on right now in Congress is
basically, there is an Angel of Death. Actually, there are two I'm told. There is one on
the Democratic side and one on the Republican side.
QUINN: Now, do they make their rounds together?
NORMAN: No. It's separately. What I'm told is that the people in Congress with these
Swiss bank accounts, who have had these accounts, if they haven't already left, if they
haven't had the good sense to already get their butts out of there, they have been
delivered, hand delivered a brown paper envelope with transaction records of their
Swiss bank accounts, and within a day or so they get a visit from this Angel of Death
who says it's time for you to go, time to do some career planning, you're out of here, we
don't want you in the government when the stuff hits the fan here, as it's gonna do in
the spring apparently. The records are going to start coming out. It's going to be
obvious. These vigilantes are just going to take this situation into their own hands and
release this stuff, I'm convinced.
QUINN: These people are real patriots. They could end up dead doing this.
NORMAN: Some of them may already have. I think... but they've planned this quite
well. I think they've got it down now. They know that if anything happens to them, that
the stuff would just come out in a gush, so it would be counterproductive for....
QUINN: Yeah, but I mean is it going to come out in the mainstream media. You've got
the Mena story being spiked a year ago by Katherine Graham at the Washington Post,
and I've uncov... you, what I stumbled on a memo from Paul Keiser yesterday from the
editor at the Washington Post who writes me in this memo a flat out blatant lie. He says
that the authors of the Mena story, that was supposed to run January 26, 1995, in the
Washington Post Outlook Section, had withdrawn the article before the Washington
Post had decided to run it, and that's just a flat out lie.
NORMAN: Well, it's technically probably true. But, what they've done, they've left those
people dangling by a thread for like 6-8 months. I don't blame them for taking the story
elsewhere as the....
QUINN: Yeah, but no, but Jim they didn't. The type galleys had been laid, and the
artwork had been done. It was supposed... they didn't pull it until the Thursday before
the Sunday it was supposed to run.
NORMAN: Right. Well, technically the Post can say, "Oh, we never quieted you..."
That's what they told me at Forbes, too, about my story. Finally, I never got a good
reason why my story didn't run at Forbes. Ultimately, they said, "Oh, we didn't trust your
sources." But, actually what my immediate supervisor said, "We can't say this about
Systematics," which was a big advertiser at Forbes, and we can't say this about the
QUINN: Yeah, right.
NORMAN: That's why it didn't run in Forbes.
QUINN: Well, there's actually no proof that Systematics has deliberately delivered
stolen software. I mean, they may not even know that the software was stolen, and it
may be another version of it.
NORMAN: Systematics is under heavy duty investigation, though, right now for money
laundering, because once you set up a system for laundering covert funds for the
government, who knows what else you can piggyback on top of that. The suspicion is
that this was the quid pro quo here in return for laundering, supposedly, call it
legitimate funds that the intelligence community can piggyback other stuff to.
QUINN: Let's get back to the Angel of Death here and the resignations in Congress,
which have been pretty much attributed by guys like Rush Limbaugh to the fact that
Democrats just don't like being in the minority anymore, and they don't have the guts or
stamina to stick it out the way the Republicans did for 40 years. And, some of that may
be true, but how many of these people who have said that they are pulling their hats out
of the ring... And, now we have two Republicans... How many of these people have
been visited by this so-called Angel of Death? All of them?
NORMAN: Well, the figures I've heard is that I think there's like 25 or 26 so far since the
last election who have decided they are not going to run again or had actually resigned
and out of there, like NORMAN MINETA from Los Angeles. Of those, I'm told about
21 or 22 so far can be directly attributed to Swiss bank account problems. There
is probably another dozen or so that are going to go that way. Again, there is an
argument that, "Oh, we just can't stand the nasty politics in Washington anymore."
Come on, give me a break.
QUINN: Well, I like Patsy Schroeder. She wanted us to believe that now that the
Democratic party is in such good shape she can leave it and it doesn't... did you see
QUINN: That was great. Oh yeah, now that....
NORMAN: Patsy Schroeder, somebody noted on the Internet that at the news
conference where she was announcing she wasn't going to run, there had already been
re-elect Schroeder bumper stickers printed up. I mean, she... take this guy Ron
Coleman from Texas, a Congressman down there. He made his announcement at his
supposed re-election campaign kickoff party.
QUINN: You're kidding? This is right out of a... this is a movie.
NORMAN: That's right. Listen, these people have been confronted. They've been given
24 hours basically to clean out their desks. That's what it amounts to.
QUINN: So, they're gonna try and get all these people out who have Swiss bank
accounts before it hits the fan. Now, when do you suppose that this is going to happen?
Can you give us a timetable?
NORMAN: Well, that's happening in tiers. I mean, we've already seen a bunch of
departures. I think that the early spring is the timetable. You know, Wall Street is going
to get hit with this stuff too. Now, every year in the spring, soon after the first of the
year, after these guys collect their year-end bonuses, you have a big exodus. But, I'm
told Wall Street is going to get hit with this big time this year because those guys were
in it too. You gotta remember, there was so much money sloshing around here...
QUINN: Yeah, really.
NORMAN: ... from arms deals. You could not launder all of that money without the
knowing, willing cooperation and participation of major banks, major brokerage
QUINN: Goldman Sachs possibly?
NORMAN: Oh yeah. Look, Goldman...
QUINN: I always found it strange that Robert Rubin showed up when he did.
NORMAN: This Goldman, they were the chief investment bankers to Robert
Maxwell in the U.K., helped Maxwell loot a half a billion dollars out of his pension
funds, and it now costs a huge amount of money for a settlement there.
QUINN: It sounds like somebody's calling you.
NORMAN: They still have the bond for ADFA, the Arkansas Development...
QUINN: Whoa, hold on a second. What's that?
NORMAN: That's another one of these...
QUINN: Well no, I know what it is. You're telling me that Goldman Sachs was holding
the bonds for the Arkansas Development?
NORMAN: No, they were the underwriter on a bunch of these $8 billion or so of bonds
that ADFA marketed to who knows whom..
QUINN: Oh man. You know, I have transactions on my desk at home, $80 million of
money transfers to the Fuji Bank in the Cayman Islands from ADFA, the Arkansas
Development Financial Authority, who I believe never had more than $8 million to
begin with. I mean, where did they get $80 million, and what's it going to the Fuji Bank
for? The interest rate? Come on, the Switzerland of the Caribbean. Jim, I gotta let you
go. I gotta wrap this up here, but I want to thank you for joining us this morning.
NORMAN: It's a pleasure. I'll keep you posted as more develops. There's going to be
more coming down the pike here soon.
QUINN: Well, I'll tell you what. I'm gonna call you later on today. I'll give you my home
number. Let's stay in touch because if what you say is true and if there are truly some
patriots in the intelligence community who are finally going to blow the whistle on this.
By the way, all of these resignations and the Angel of Death and all of this, I think is
evidence that these people know that this is inevitable that this is going to come out.
NORMAN: It's like AIDS. I think there are a bunch of people back before the last
election who realized they, in fact, have slept with the wrong woman or person, and
they did not run again, but there has been denial, denial, denial by a bunch of these
people. Finally, I think it's like the Angel of Death is finally coming around saying, "You
gotta go. Bye. You're outta here."
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If you are a talk show host and want to contact either one of these guys for an interview
you can reach James Norman at MEDIA BYPASS MAGAZINE, 1-800-4-BYPASS
Jim Quinn can be contacted at WRRK, 7 Parkway Center, Suite 780, Pittsburgh, PA
15220, Fax Number 412-928-9290, Internet address is email@example.com homepage at
http://www.warroom.com or Compuserve 72662,3507.
Norman Mineta - Bill Clinton’s Secretary of Commerce replacing William Daley who
left to run Al Gore’s presidential campaign. Mineta is currently Secretary of
Transportation in the George W. Bush administration.
As Clinton and the media repeatedly pointed out Mineta is the first Asian-American
Cabinet member. One television news commentator made the observation that this
was a good political move on Gore’s part in order to garner the badly needed California
“He brings an in-depth understanding of American business and a strong sense of the
needs of our high-tech economy,” President Clinton said.
“But he also has a deep concern for people, for people in places who are not yet
fully participating in this economy.”
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From Stupid White Men, (copyright 2000) by Michael Moore:
Secretary of Transportation – Norman Y. Mineta
A leftover from the Clinton administration, the only “Democrat” in Bush’s cabinet, Mineta
has his own corporate connections. When he was a congressman representing Silicon
Valley, he received campaign contributions from Northwest Airlines, United Airlines,
Greyhound, Boeing and Union Pacific.
After retiring from the House, he went to work at Lockheed Martin.
What better place to park himself now than at the cabinet department that “oversees”
all of them?
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From USA Today, 6/30/00: . . . Clinton’s choice of Mineta stands to bolster the Gore
campaign in pivotal California. ... He has close ties to the state’s Asian-American
groups, as well as the deep-pocketed defense, aerospace and computer industries.
“Some might say that the months remaining in this administration is not a lot of time to
make a difference in the life of our nation, but I disagree,” Mineta said at a White House
news conference. “Six months is a virtual eternity in the new economy. ...
Mineta joined defense contractor Lockheed Martin as a lobbyist in 1995 after serving
21 years in the House....
The last seven months of the Clinton administration are likely to be busy ones at
The department is playing a major role in Clinton’s campaign to normalize trade with
China. It will wrap up the once-a-decade census and soon issue a politically sensitive
report on unfair practices of foreign steelmakers....
A coalition of pro-trade business groups spoke out yesterday to urge Lott and other
Senate Republicans to schedule a vote on the China legislation as quickly as possible. .
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A Catbird Comment: Whoa, Nellie!!! Back that up and run it past me again -- slowly!
Wasn’t Al Gore just on the Congressional hot seat for the 1996 campaign fund-raising
scandals? And didn’t those scandals revolve around illegal contributions from
foreign interests— mainly China? And wasn’t one of the major aero-space firms
involved in the scandals, LOCKHEED MARTIN?
Holy corporate quid pro quo, Batman!
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For more on Norman Mineta, GO TO > > > Year of the Dragon
For more on Lockheed Martin, GO TO > > > Tarnished Wings
William J. Clinton - 42nd President of the United States of America.
March 7, 2002
Independent Counsel: Clinton Would
Have Been Convicted
By Pete Yost, Associated Press
WASHINGTON – President Clinton could have been indicted and probably would
have been convicted in the scandal involving Monica Lewinsky, independent counsel
Robert Ray contended yesterday in his final report.
Writing this last chapter on the affair that damaged the former president’s second term,
Ray said Clinton lied in January 1998 testimony denying a sexual relationship with
Lewinsky. Clinton also “impeded the due administration of justice” by drawing
presidential secretary Betty Currie into his false account, Ray added.
“The independent counsel concluded that sufficient evidence existed to prosecute and
that such evidence would ‘probably be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction,’”
said the report, quoting from Justice Department guidelines for bringing criminal cases.
Just before Clinton left office early last year, his lawyers made an arrangement with Ray
that spared him from criminal charges in the Lewinsky affair. In addition to admitting
that he “knowingly gave evasive and misleading answers” about his sexual relationship,
Clinton surrendered his law license for five years.
Ray said the belief that “sufficient evidence existed to prosecute President Clinton was
confirmed by President Clinton’s admissions” on his last full day in office “and by
evidence showing that he engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of
justice.” . . .
“The $70 million investigation of President Clinton from 1994 to 2001 was intense,
expensive, partisan and long ... and there’s nothing new in this report,” said Clinton
lawyer David Kendall.
Regarding Ray’s findings in the Lewinsky matter, “it’s not clear what the purpose of the
report is other than to promote Robert Ray’s Senate campaign, Monica Lewinsky’s
HBO special and the Paula Jones vs. Tonya Harding boxing match,” said Jerrifer
Palmieri, a former spokeswoman for Clinton.
Ray acknowledges that he is considering seeking the nomination to challenge Sen.
Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., but has not announced his candidacy or filed any paperwork.
But House Judiciary Committee chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., called the
report “a welcome event” that “will permit the public to evaluate fully President Clinton’s
misconduct and the independent counsel’s investigation.”
The report focused on two events: Clinton’s testimony in the Paula Jones sexual
harassment lawsuit and his interaction with Currie, the presidential secretary he
summoned to the White House for a meeting the day after that testimony.
According to Currie’s testimony, Clinton told the secretary that she had always been
present when Clinton was with Lewinsky, that Lewinsky “came on to” Clinton, that
Currie “could see and hear everything” and that the president never touched the White
The House impeached Clinton in December 1998, accusing him of perjury and
The senate declined to convict his the following February.
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From Year of the Rat: . . .
Our thesis is simple: The Clinton administration has made a series of Faustian
bargains and policy blunders that allowed a hostile power to further its aims in
In the main, Bill Clinton and Al Gore did it for money.
In these pages, we will show that, in order to gain and hold onto power, the Clinton
administration has acted recklessly, allowing the wrong people to gain access to our
most important political and economic secrets. Any number of Chinese arms dealers,
spies, narcotics traffickers, gangsters, pimps, accomplices to mass murder, communist
agents, and other undesirables will appear in these pages, all associated in one way or
another with the White House and money.
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Did the Clinton administration sell out America’s national security to one of this
country’s leading and most dangerous adversaries merely to raise campaign
cash? In the pages that follow, we will prove our answer, which is: YES !
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The Clinton-Gore inauguration in mid-January 1993 was another opportunity for the
Riadys to open their wallets.
James Riady and John Huang each gave $100,000 to cover the cost of inaugural
parties. The Riadys brought a number of friends from Indonesia to Washington for the
swearing in ceremony. . . .
Their generosity continued. At the direction of Mochtar Riady, Joe Giroir — a Lippo
partner and Arkansas “Friend of Bill” (FOB) — bestowed a life-sized bust of Clinton
upon the National Portrait Gallery. Giroir has personally contributed $200,000 to the
DNC since 1993, something made easier by his $500,000-a-year compensation from
Lippo. . . .
In return for such generosity, the Riadys and their friends were given unparalleled
access to the White House. In Jakarta, James Riady likes to brag about where he was
on the afternoon of April 18, 1993.
On that day eighty members of the Branch Davidian religious cult were holed up in their
compound outside of Waco, Texas, when it was shattered by a tank-led assault. By
the time the FBI and Treasury’s Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents had completed
their work, seventeen American children had burned to death....
As might be expected, the White House was a busy place that afternoon, and the
president was preoccupied. Clinton was not too distracted, however, to chat with his
leading contributors — James Riady, John Huang, and Mark Grobmyer — in his little
study off the Oval Office. Riady later told Indonesian diplomats that, during their chat, a
television in the corner showed the Waco compound burning over and over as
CNN repeated its coverage.
Clinton even took time to show his visitors the White House Situation Room, then
on full alert. White House entry logs confirm that Riady and his companions were in
the presidential offices (West Wing) of the White House that day.
They apparently also dropped in on Robert Rubin, now secretary of the treasury, who
was then a White House economics official....
For more on the Riadys, GO TO > > > The Indonesian Connection
For more on Robert Rubin, GO TO > > > Confessions of a Whistleblower; Dirty
Money, Dirty Politics & Bishop Estate; Dirty Gold in Goldman Sachs; Vampires in
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From No One Left to Lie To: . . .
On December 10, 1998, the majority counsel of the House Judiciary Committee, David
Shippers, delivered one of the most remarkable speeches ever heard in the precincts.
A leathery Chicago law ‘n order Democrat, Mr. Schippers represented the old-style, big
city, blue-collar sensibility ... The spirit of an earlier time, of a time before “smoking
materials” had been banned from the White House, rasped from his delivery. After
pedantically walking his hearers through a traditional prosecutor’s review of an
incorrigible perp ... Mr. Schippers paused and said:
“The President, then, has lied under oath in a civil deposition, lied under oath in a
criminal grand jury. He lied to the people, he lied to the Cabinet, he lied to his top
aides, and now he’s lied under oath to the Congress of the United States. There’s
no one left to lie to.”
* * *
Now, David Shippers tells us what really happened behind closed doors in the
impeachment of William J. Clinton, in his remarkable first-hand account:
SELLOUT: The Inside Story of President Clinton’s Impeachment, by David P.
As our deadline approached, we still wanted to expand our inquiry beyond Monica
The Independent Counsel’s Office sent over two large file boxes— one for the
Democrats and an identical one for us. It was stuffed with transcripts of grand jury
testimony, witness interviews, and FBI reports.
There was information about alleged hush money payoffs to Webster Hubbell by John
Huang and the Riady group, which tied into our investigation of Chinagate. But more
shocking were the investigative reports about the alleged rape of a woman named
Juanita Broaddrick. There was also information ... of the President’s alleged groping of
Because of the nature of the alleged offenses, both the Willey case and the Broaddrick
case were important— if the charges could be proven— in establishing a pattern of
obstruction, perjury, and witness tampering. In the Willey case in particular, the
President had given a deposition in which he emphatically denied the allegations....
But bad things happened after Willey was subpoenaed to give a deposition in the Paula
Jones case. This story was even more shocking than the President’s alleged assault
on a married woman.
On July 31, 1997, [David] Gecker [Willey’s friend and attorney] received, without
warning, a fax from the President’s attorney. Both Willey and her attorney ... confirmed
to us that it was a document entitled “Statement of Kathleen Willey” and that it came
with the instruction that she was to read it as a public statement. It said: “The President
of the United States never sexually harassed me in any way, and I have always
considered myself to be on excellent terms with him.”
She ignored the request.
In Aug 1197 the groping incident was reported in the Drudge Report and Newsweek.
Around this time she received a phone call from an acquaintance who was a major
financial donor to President Clinton. He told her to avoid giving a deposition if she was
subpoenaed in the Jones case and to deny that anything had ever happened because
only two people know and “all you have to do is deny it, too.”
He called several other times, encouraging her to say, “I can’t remember; it’s none of
Willey was subpoenaed in the fall of 1997 but wasn’t actually called to testify until Jan
10, 1998. Shortly after she received the subpoena, Gecker was visited by one of the
President’s lawyers. Gecker told Kathleen the gist of the meeting: Clinton’s lawyer was
suggesting she avoid testifying by taking the Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination. Gecker told Clinton’s attorney that his client wouldn’t take the Fifth
because she had done nothing wrong....
A short while before Willey was scheduled to testify, Gecker received another visit from
the same lawyer. This time Gecker was told that he was only “a real estate lawyer” and
that Kathleen Willey should really be represented by a top criminal attorney. Gecker
responded that he was perfectly capable of handling a deposition and that he could not
see any possible reason that Kathleen needed a criminal lawyer. Gecker added that
even if she wanted such a lawyer, Willey was broke and could not afford the fees
charged by top Washington criminal lawyers. The President’s attorney offered that she
wouldn’t need to worry about fees because “we will take care of that.”...
Gecker conveyed this to Willey. She was frightened and convinced that if she testified
she would be indicted by Janet Reno’s Justice Department. She had seen how Billy
Dale of the White House Travel Office had actually been indicted and tried for crimes
he had not committed, reportedly because he had gotten in the way of the Clinton
administration. She had seen the smears and attacks on Paula Jones. To add to her
fears, she felt intimidated by events that followed.
Shortly before her Jan 10 deposition, Willey came out of her Virginia home to find all of
her tires flat. Her mechanic asked, “Who the hell did you tick off? Your tires were
flattened with a nail gun.”...
As the deposition got closer, the intimidation increased. One day her cat, Bullseye,
disappeared. On Jan 8, two days before she was to testify, Willey was walking her
dogs in a secluded area early in the morning. A man in a jogging suit approached her:
JOGGER: Good morning, did you ever find your cat?
WILLEY: No, we haven’t found her yet.
JOGGER: That’s too bad. Bullseye was his name, wasn’t it? . . . Did you ever get
those tires fixed?
WILLEY: They’re fine...
JOGGER: So, ------ and ------ [Willey’s children]? . . . and our attorney, Dan, is he
WILLEY: He’s fine.
JOGGER: I hope you’re getting the message.
Willey was terrified. She turned and ran. The jogger called after her, “You’re just not
getting the message, are you?”...
The deposition began as scheduled....
Gecker saw that Willey was nervous. When the Jones attorneys asked about the
incident in the Oval Office, she looked terrified. Gecker asked for a short recess to
consult with his client....
“Kathleen, there is no turning back, what are you going to do?”
“I’m going to tell the truth, the whole truth,” she answered, with tears in her eyes. She
went back and answered every question put to her.
The next morning Willey stepped outside to pick up the newspaper. There on the
porch, within a few feet of the front door, the skull of a small animal lay facing her....
~ ~ ~
Kathleen Willey wasn’t the only woman from President Clinton’s past with an
outrageous story to tell.
A week or so after the election, Pete Wacks, Diana Woznicki, and I met with
Congressman Bob Barr and Larry Klayman. Klayman is a lawyer and the leader of
Judicial Watch, which had vigorously pursued Clinton scandals from Filegate to
Chinagate, deposing John Huang, the mysterious employee of the Dept of Commerce
and later of the Democratic National Committee. Barr thought Klayman might be able
to help us....
Klayman had testimony on Filegate that he thought showed clear abuse of power by the
President. He was building a case on Commercegate, having uncovered evidence of a
scheme by Huang to sell Commerce Dept junkets to heavy contributors to the Clinton-Gore campaign. Klayman had developed an informant close to Commerce Secretary
Ron Brown who gave testimony showing a pattern of raffling off trips on federally
funded trade missions....
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During our investigation, we began receiving reports that one of the “Jane Does”
mentioned in the Jones case was a woman who might have been assaulted by then-Arkansas Attorney General William Clinton....
I asked Diana Woznicki to look into the matter.
Within a day or two, Diana reported to me about a woman in Arkansas, Juanita
Broaddrick, who alleged that Clinton had raped her years earlier. A shocking story,
but nothing in itself that would affect our case in the Senate.
Then Diana dropped the bomb.
“Oh, one more thing that I picked up. She was subpoenaed by the Jones lawyers. She
filed an affidavit denying everything.”
Bingo! That changed the whole picture. Three questions had to be answered: Was the
original assault story true? Where did she get the affidavit? And was she pressured
directly or indirectly by the White House to sign a false affidavit?...
I sent Diana and John [Kocoras] to meet with Broaddrick and her lawyer in Arkansas. ...
Diana said Broaddrick appeared to be hiding something. When asked if she had
executed a false affidavit in the Jones case, she acknowledged that she had. Her
lawyer interrupted, saying that the affidavit wasn’t technically false, and Broaddrick
retorted, “Yes, it was!”
Later, Broaddrick phoned Diana and unburdened herself for about an hour-and-a-half,
telling her the full story.
I asked Diana the critical question, “Do you believe her?”
Diana, who had extensive experience helping rape victims as a Chicago cop, said
definitively, “Juanita fits the pattern of the classic rape victim.”
Here is the story as told by Juanita Broaddrick to Diana Woznicki as part of our
Juanita Broaddrick met Bill Clinton in 1978, when he made a campaign stop at a
nursing home that she owned. At the time, Broaddrick was a young married woman
who worked in the long-term care industry ... while Clinton, Arkansas’s Attorney
General, was campaigning for his first term as Governor. During the visit, Clinton told
Broaddrick to call him and visit his headquarters to pick up campaign materials the next
time she was in Little Rock.
In the spring of that year, Broaddrick and a female friend attended a health care
conference in Little Rock. She remembered Clinton’s invitation and called for an
appointment . . .
Clinton called her back and suggested they meet in the hotel coffee shop to talk about
his campaign. A few minutes later, he called again. He told Juanita there were
reporters in the coffee shop and asked if they could meet in her room so they could talk
without interruption. Broaddrick hesitated because she was alone in her room ... In
those days it was still considered unusual for a woman to meet a man alone in her hotel
room, especially in the South.
Then she thought, “This is the Attorney General; if I can’t trust him, who can I trust?”
So she agreed to the meeting.
When the Attorney General arrived, he was alone. ... The two engaged in some general
small talk, and Broaddrick ushered Clinton to the window, where the coffee service was
Suddenly, Clinton began kissing her, at first not forcefully. But then he threw her on the
bed and kept kissing her. She struggled to get away, and as she did, he got on top of
her and bit her lower lip as a way of controlling her....
She kept saying no, that she didn’t want this to happen. The pain became excruciating.
He forced her legs apart and raped her.
At one point in the attack, Clinton assured Juanita that there was no danger of her
getting pregnant. He said, “I had mumps when I was a kid; I’m sterile.”
Finally, the ordeal appeared to be completed. Clinton rose up slightly as though he
were about to withdraw. Then he said, “My God, I can do it again!” And he did.
When Clinton finally completed the assault, Broaddrick was close to collapse. She was
sobbing uncontrollably, afraid of what might happen next, confused, and in a panic.
Clinton appeared unfazed. He cooly rose from the bed and went into the bathroom. All
the time Juanita was afraid to move. He emerged after a few minutes and started to
walk out. When he reached the door, he turned to his sobbing victim ... smiled, and
said, “You better do something about that lip. Get some ice on it.”
Then he put on his sunglasses and left....
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See on the net: The Antechamber; Tenacious Tentacles; Vince Foster; Who is Leo
Wanta?; Clinton Scandal Clips; Democratic Chinese Fund Raising; Questions Linger
About Ron Brown; The Confidential Commerce Files; Ron Brown and the Balkans; The
Clinton Stories the Media Still Won’t Cover; Whitewater and Clinton Scandals; The
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For more sightings of birds of this nature
A Connecticut Yankee in King Kamehameha’s Court
Aloha, Harken Energy
Birds on the Power Lines
Buzzards on the Hill & Knowlton
The Carlyle Group: Birds that Drink from Cesspools
Condoleezza and The Chicken Hawks
Confessions of a Whistleblower
Crouching Dragon ~ Hidden Rats
Dirty Money, Dirty Politics & Bishop Estate
Dirty Gold in Goldman Sachs
Flying High in Hawaii
Nests in the Pentagon
Nests on the Rails
Of Vampires and Daisies
Parrots in the Newsroom
The Eagle Awakes
The Eagle Hooded
The Indonesian Connection
The Kissinger of Death
The Nests of Osama bin Laden
The Secret Nests
The Story of Enron
The Strange Saga of BCCI
Tarnished Wings: The Greed at Lockheed
Thorns in the Rose Garden
The Vampires on Jupiter Island
Vultures in The Global Fund
Vultures in The Hawaii Nature Center
Vultures in the Nature Conservancy
Yakuza Doodle Dandies
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